Who is the Greatest rapper of all time? Subjective though there are a clear top 5. Pac, Nas, Biggie, Jay and Em in no particular order. Greatest Golf player all time? Subjective though, again there are top 5s. In Boxing, we have Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Mayweather, Manny and other names like Sugar Ray and Oscar De La Hoya etc. Heck, I still believe Joe Montana is the actual GOAT of football for countless reasons. My point is that we all have different criteria for different GOATs of different genres. However, to me it is laughable that when it comes to basketball, how someone can place Kareem or Lebron over a clear cut GOAT in MJ is beyond me. How can a guy that is 4-6 in the Finals be a GOAT? How can a guy who leaves teams when it gets hard be a GOAT? As far as Kareem, how can a guy who actually rode Magic's coattail be considered a GOAT? Michael won 6 out of 6 in a tougher era against Hall of Famers in their prime and won 10 scoring titles, 9 First team all defense and even won a DPOY the same year he won MVP. Most ppg in regular and post season. Wanna talk about records, those are some that may never be broken. Not only that but he three peated TWICE and was the clear cut FMVP of each. The man literally NEVER had another top 10 player next to him unlike Lebron. Even then, Lebron lost 3x when having another top 10 player on his squad. Absolutely absurd this conversation. MJ isn't just my GOAT or last generation's GOAT. He is the transcendent GOAT of all eras thus far and it's not even close!
The Jordan Standard🏆🐐: 6 Championships (2x Three-peats) 6 Finals MVP 5 Season MVP 1 Defensive Player of the Year 0 Losses in the Finals Never went to game 7 in the Finals Never lost 3 games in a row 10x Scoring Titles, 3x Steal Titles 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive Averaged 30pts 6reb 5ast 2stl on 50% FG All within 13 seasons with the Bulls Michael Jordan is the Greatest Player of all Time. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🐐
LeBron “King” James 👑: 4 Championships (1x Two-peat) 4 Finals MVP 4 Season MVP 6 losses in the Finals (2x Sweeps) First ever to come back from a 3-1 deficit Finals #1 NBA All-Time Leading Scorer 1x Scoring Title, 1x Assist Title 17x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive Averaged 27pts 7reb 7ast 1stl on 50% FG All within 20 seasons with Cavs, Heat & Lakers LeBron James is the Greatest 2nd Place Finisher of all Time. 🏆🏆🏆🏆👑
But people wanted the smoke with Lebron. It’s a difference with people (thinking) they want the smoke with MJ. After a taste they really didn’t want it at all. But people keeps coming for Lebron. People was literally scared or fascinated with MJ on a different level.
3:32 spot on 🎯 it’s OKAY to have a personal goat but to bring down another superstar just to solidify your favorite player as the goat….different ERAS. Different RULES. Different TIMES. It’s always the non-skilled non-athletic fans that think they know it all but not even nowhere near the league lol
Yeah…yeah…you are doing a great job by bringing others names next MJ just to promote NBA brand today….otherwise, three of you know deep-down MJ is the GOAT of basketball and all athletes 😉
Jordan is the most cut-throat and clutch ever. James is the best all around ever and bigger/stronger/just as fast. Both were great defenders at their peaks. Both were great leaders. 1A and 1B. One has more rings/awards, one has more numbers/longevity. But, where is the love for Jabbar?
Factor in social media, Steph Curry (the best shooter ever), 20 years of excellence, all time points leader, one of best facilitators ever at SF…Lebron is the GOAT
Lebron could get in trouble if they would actually talk about his black Muslim affiliations. He is a deep seated racist. But no one is allowed to mention it.
LJ cc complained when he was fouled but no foul was given… That was too petty, how much do you think he'll do if there's hand shake allowed??? No way, he won't last 15 minutes. Do you think he can endure the Jordan rule???
James 3:5-6 “ Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.”
DOMINATE all your opponents! Make them suffer win every INDIVIDUAL and TEAM accolades that you can!! Championship! MVP! Finals MVP, SCORING, ALL STARS, NBA 1st TEAM NBA Defensive TEAM!
MJ did that!!! Nobody eats at MJ’s table when he’s he reach his prime!
“ NBA all time Metrics Overall Greatness: 1 LeBron James 499.8/500 2 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 496/500 3 Michael Jordan 492.1/500 4 Kobe Bryant 491/500 5 Shaquille O’neal 490.7/500
"They DAMN sure didn't play against MJ!" The emphasis he put on that, means he knows what it is, lol! He's being nice and humble to include Lebron out of appreciation during this "network milking of the scoring title hype", and that's fine. I get it, nothing else exciting is happening in the NBA. But if my life was on the line and i had to choose between the two, It's MJ ALL DAY! And i guarantee it would be a lot of deceased youngins out there who chose Lebron. 🤣
Wilt magic bird mic shaq Kobe lebron curry the greatest of the their generation you can argue Duncan those 5 rings don’t lie tho his style not as flashy as the big guys up there any of those can be argued as the goat I personally put Kobe as my 1 and curry as my 2 but it’s opinionated and if you took a census on it those would probably be the names up there
For anybody that says they are the greatest of their generation well who has had the most Hof's in their time you can say wilt generation didn't have that much talent lebron don't have no passion no competitiveness that's y Jordan the goat and if you look at the NBA top 75 most of them are from Jordan era
Wow now Shaq and chuck change their opinions, hmmm must be the script they had to say cuz not to long ago they always said mj was the goat. It's so dam obvious that Jordan did more then lebron and kobe in 13 years with the bulls. I bet off the air they would be honest but for the nba's narrative they have say what they want.
It doesnt matter how u guys wnt to try qnd make it looks good, at the end of the day jordan is the goat of eny era, lebron scoring title is just long gevity stats padding, he aint nowere on mj level FACTS
The longevity came at a cost. If Bron defended harder, his teams would become better defensive teams (as in embraced defense as a culture) and more likely to win more finals than he lost. He probably won't break Kareem's record though. Still, one of the best to ever played.
this was a BS Allstar Game I havent watched it since 96 when real NBA players where on the court all these baby whinny guys with no heart nba players has watered down the game.
so here's the thing. if we gonna talk about boxing Pacquiao became champ from different weight classes and no one agreed to any experts to that sport that he's the goat I don't know because he's asian or what. but if just talk about numbers and depend on it Pacquiao was the goat of boxing not SRL or M. Ali. so in this case jordan is the goat? not bron🤔🤔🤔
Chuck is right you cant compare because the rules were different back then you couldn’t double a player like you can do now 🤷🏾♂️, no hand checking, and lots more so its harder to play in this era
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Michael Jordan is the greatest ever, stop the nonsense. It's not even close.
Who is the Greatest rapper of all time? Subjective though there are a clear top 5. Pac, Nas, Biggie, Jay and Em in no particular order. Greatest Golf player all time? Subjective though, again there are top 5s. In Boxing, we have Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Mayweather, Manny and other names like Sugar Ray and Oscar De La Hoya etc. Heck, I still believe Joe Montana is the actual GOAT of football for countless reasons. My point is that we all have different criteria for different GOATs of different genres. However, to me it is laughable that when it comes to basketball, how someone can place Kareem or Lebron over a clear cut GOAT in MJ is beyond me. How can a guy that is 4-6 in the Finals be a GOAT? How can a guy who leaves teams when it gets hard be a GOAT? As far as Kareem, how can a guy who actually rode Magic's coattail be considered a GOAT? Michael won 6 out of 6 in a tougher era against Hall of Famers in their prime and won 10 scoring titles, 9 First team all defense and even won a DPOY the same year he won MVP. Most ppg in regular and post season. Wanna talk about records, those are some that may never be broken. Not only that but he three peated TWICE and was the clear cut FMVP of each. The man literally NEVER had another top 10 player next to him unlike Lebron. Even then, Lebron lost 3x when having another top 10 player on his squad. Absolutely absurd this conversation. MJ isn't just my GOAT or last generation's GOAT. He is the transcendent GOAT of all eras thus far and it's not even close!
Chick said it best 👍
These conversations are getting stale
U don't know lebron he has disrespected alot.oh he is perfect
Sir Charles is spot on!!
WE ARE ALL WITNESSES 👑🐐
The Jordan Standard🏆🐐:
6 Championships (2x Three-peats)
6 Finals MVP
5 Season MVP
1 Defensive Player of the Year
0 Losses in the Finals
Never went to game 7 in the Finals
Never lost 3 games in a row
10x Scoring Titles, 3x Steal Titles
11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive
Averaged 30pts 6reb 5ast 2stl on 50% FG
All within 13 seasons with the Bulls
Michael Jordan is the Greatest Player of all Time.
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🐐
LeBron “King” James 👑:
4 Championships (1x Two-peat)
4 Finals MVP
4 Season MVP
6 losses in the Finals (2x Sweeps)
First ever to come back from a 3-1 deficit Finals
#1 NBA All-Time Leading Scorer
1x Scoring Title, 1x Assist Title
17x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive
Averaged 27pts 7reb 7ast 1stl on 50% FG
All within 20 seasons with Cavs, Heat & Lakers
LeBron James is the Greatest 2nd Place Finisher of all Time.
🏆🏆🏆🏆👑
But people wanted the smoke with Lebron. It’s a difference with people (thinking) they want the smoke with MJ. After a taste they really didn’t want it at all. But people keeps coming for Lebron. People was literally scared or fascinated with MJ on a different level.
3:32 spot on 🎯 it’s OKAY to have a personal goat but to bring down another superstar just to solidify your favorite player as the goat….different ERAS. Different RULES. Different TIMES. It’s always the non-skilled non-athletic fans that think they know it all but not even nowhere near the league lol
Shaq's hat would look like a big ass sombrero on anyone else. 😂😂
Longevity g.o.h he came in the league at 18
Availability he load management, doesn't play all 82 games but once, reduced backtobacks
Yeah…yeah…you are doing a great job by bringing others names next MJ just to promote NBA brand today….otherwise, three of you know deep-down MJ is the GOAT of basketball and all athletes 😉
Jordan is the most cut-throat and clutch ever. James is the best all around ever and bigger/stronger/just as fast. Both were great defenders at their peaks. Both were great leaders. 1A and 1B. One has more rings/awards, one has more numbers/longevity. But, where is the love for Jabbar?
Factor in social media, Steph Curry (the best shooter ever), 20 years of excellence, all time points leader, one of best facilitators ever at SF…Lebron is the GOAT
@4:38 CB summed it all up.
Kobe does not belong in any GOAT conversation. Kobe was the second best player on his own team when Shaq was a Laker. Please stop the Kobe nonsense.
Lebron could get in trouble if they would actually talk about his black Muslim affiliations. He is a deep seated racist. But no one is allowed to mention it.
Black history…
LJ cc complained when he was fouled but no foul was given… That was too petty, how much do you think he'll do if there's hand shake allowed??? No way, he won't last 15 minutes. Do you think he can endure the Jordan rule???
Thank you COUSIN…… For correcting him. SELAH 🙏⚖️🤲🏽 *KB8 in his Prime was enough….Case closed!!! ON EVERYTHING I LOVE ❤️
James 3:5-6 “ Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.”
Blah blah blah blah…MJ is the 🐐
MJ #1 LBJ #2
Being a GOAT is about DOMINANCE in your era.
DOMINATE all your opponents! Make them suffer win every INDIVIDUAL and TEAM accolades that you can!! Championship! MVP! Finals MVP, SCORING, ALL STARS, NBA 1st TEAM NBA Defensive TEAM!
MJ did that!!! Nobody eats at MJ’s table when he’s he reach his prime!
So MJ is still #1 LBJ now is a solid #2.
Kenny legit looks like RuPaul here 🤣
“ NBA all time Metrics Overall Greatness:
1 LeBron James 499.8/500
2 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 496/500
3 Michael Jordan 492.1/500
4 Kobe Bryant 491/500
5 Shaquille O’neal 490.7/500
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"They DAMN sure didn't play against MJ!" The emphasis he put on that, means he knows what it is, lol! He's being nice and humble to include Lebron out of appreciation during this "network milking of the scoring title hype", and that's fine. I get it, nothing else exciting is happening in the NBA. But if my life was on the line and i had to choose between the two, It's MJ ALL DAY! And i guarantee it would be a lot of deceased youngins out there who chose Lebron. 🤣
Wilt magic bird mic shaq Kobe lebron curry the greatest of the their generation you can argue Duncan those 5 rings don’t lie tho his style not as flashy as the big guys up there any of those can be argued as the goat I personally put Kobe as my 1 and curry as my 2 but it’s opinionated and if you took a census on it those would probably be the names up there
But lebron is top 7 off al time …mj is the goat
For anybody that says they are the greatest of their generation well who has had the most Hof's in their time you can say wilt generation didn't have that much talent lebron don't have no passion no competitiveness that's y Jordan the goat and if you look at the NBA top 75 most of them are from Jordan era
Wow now Shaq and chuck change their opinions, hmmm must be the script they had to say cuz not to long ago they always said mj was the goat. It's so dam obvious that Jordan did more then lebron and kobe in 13 years with the bulls. I bet off the air they would be honest but for the nba's narrative they have say what they want.
It doesnt matter how u guys wnt to try qnd make it looks good, at the end of the day jordan is the goat of eny era, lebron scoring title is just long gevity stats padding, he aint nowere on mj level
FACTS
The longevity came at a cost. If Bron defended harder, his teams would become better defensive teams (as in embraced defense as a culture) and more likely to win more finals than he lost. He probably won't break Kareem's record though. Still, one of the best to ever played.
Ali is goat not because he is the best boxer but because of what he stood for , LeBrons is the same
this was a BS Allstar Game I havent watched it since 96 when real NBA players where on the court all these baby whinny guys with no heart nba players has watered down the game.
so here's the thing. if we gonna talk about boxing Pacquiao became champ from different weight classes and no one agreed to any experts to that sport that he's the goat I don't know because he's asian or what. but if just talk about numbers and depend on it Pacquiao was the goat of boxing not SRL or M. Ali. so in this case jordan is the goat? not bron🤔🤔🤔
I agree you really can't say who is the GOAT I'm just Bless to watch all those guys perform as a basketball fan it's an honor to watch those men play
Kobe
Am a fool.
Xbox.
Michael era
Lebron and AD
6-0 in finals
Never disrespected anybody?
Jordan > LeBron, and always will be. Sorry, not sorry.
They full of it Jordan is the goat and it's not even close
Jordan
Kobe
LeBron
Forever
Chuck is right you cant compare because the rules were different back then you couldn’t double a player like you can do now 🤷🏾♂️, no hand checking, and lots more so its harder to play in this era
Ahhh ahh ahhh ahhh staying alive 💫💫💫🔥✅😂
50 years from now someone will pass Lebron, and will be ?’ing who’s the goat